Comments on: O’SCANLON: NO MORE CONTRACTS FOR POLS http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html Serving greater Red Bank, NJ - a town square for an unsquare town Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:47:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Dan http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html/comment-page-1#comment-32056 Dan Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:38:18 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html#comment-32056 <p>Actually, O'Scanlon's bill applies only to contracts between legislators and government entities. Since he was not a legislator at the time, his contract with Fair Haven would still have been legal under this bill.</p> <p>Certainly this bill is incomplete, but something is better than nothing. </p> <p>Which has me wondering. Assemblywoman Casagrande's editorial in the Asbury Park Press today, in which she says she voted against ethics reform legislation "because I'm tired of hearing that something is better than nothing." Does that mean she'll be opposing O'Scanlon's very limited bill?</p> <p>It might behoove her to do so. My impression is that the core of her law practice is serving local governments. </p> <p>I wonder if O'Scanlon is getting the stink eye from Casagrande....</p> <p>Wait a minute, Casagrande and Menna have recently formed a law firm together. So this bill would also force Menna to give up all his municipal clients. DecO must be getting bipartisan stink eyes.</p> Actually, O'Scanlon's bill applies only to contracts between legislators and government entities. Since he was not a legislator at the time, his contract with Fair Haven would still have been legal under this bill.

Certainly this bill is incomplete, but something is better than nothing.

Which has me wondering. Assemblywoman Casagrande's editorial in the Asbury Park Press today, in which she says she voted against ethics reform legislation "because I'm tired of hearing that something is better than nothing." Does that mean she'll be opposing O'Scanlon's very limited bill?

It might behoove her to do so. My impression is that the core of her law practice is serving local governments.

I wonder if O'Scanlon is getting the stink eye from Casagrande….

Wait a minute, Casagrande and Menna have recently formed a law firm together. So this bill would also force Menna to give up all his municipal clients. DecO must be getting bipartisan stink eyes.

]]> By: FH_resident http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html/comment-page-1#comment-32055 FH_resident Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:59:43 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html#comment-32055 <p>So let me get this right, Mr Panter said this was wrongdoing all along, Mayor halfacre wanted an formal "im Sorry" from Mr Panter for saying it was wrong to do.<br /> Now Declan is saying he too believes its wrong to do?<br /> So I ask you this Mr. Oscanlan,<br /> Will you forfeit all monies recieved from my town back to the town, and forfeit the monies still to come?<br /> IF you do this, then we will believe your sincere about your position on this Bill.</p> <p>Or are your only supporting this bill because youve ran out of towns to place cell towers in, and you know theres no more money to be made around here for awhile.</p> <p>FH resident</p> So let me get this right, Mr Panter said this was wrongdoing all along, Mayor halfacre wanted an formal "im Sorry" from Mr Panter for saying it was wrong to do.
Now Declan is saying he too believes its wrong to do?
So I ask you this Mr. Oscanlan,
Will you forfeit all monies recieved from my town back to the town, and forfeit the monies still to come?
IF you do this, then we will believe your sincere about your position on this Bill.

Or are your only supporting this bill because youve ran out of towns to place cell towers in, and you know theres no more money to be made around here for awhile.

FH resident

]]> By: redbankgreenman http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html/comment-page-1#comment-32054 redbankgreenman Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:34:15 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html#comment-32054 <p>'WatchDog' is correct. I relied on the Little Silver Borough website, which still lists O'Scanlon as a councilman and includes him in a photo of the governing body. Mea culpa.</p> <p>John T. Ward<br /> redbankgreenman</p> 'WatchDog' is correct. I relied on the Little Silver Borough website, which still lists O'Scanlon as a councilman and includes him in a photo of the governing body. Mea culpa.

John T. Ward
redbankgreenman

]]> By: Red Bank Green WatchDog http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html/comment-page-1#comment-32053 Red Bank Green WatchDog Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:22:29 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html#comment-32053 <p>For the record - this article is in error. Declan no longer serves on the Little Silver Borough Council. He did not seek re-election to the council in November as he was running for the Assembly seat he ultimately won. </p> <p>It would be appreciated if Red Bank Green would verify its facts before they post these articles. It creates nothing but confusion and misinformation otherwise.<br /> </p> For the record - this article is in error. Declan no longer serves on the Little Silver Borough Council. He did not seek re-election to the council in November as he was running for the Assembly seat he ultimately won.

It would be appreciated if Red Bank Green would verify its facts before they post these articles. It creates nothing but confusion and misinformation otherwise.

]]> By: Dan http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html/comment-page-1#comment-32052 Dan Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:30:19 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html#comment-32052 <p>Kudos to O'Scanlon for proposing ethics legislation that would negatively impact his own income, instead of just pointing the finger at others.</p> <p>As long as we're tilting at windmills, why is the bill limited to contracts within one's own district? To use O'Scanlon's case, I don't see how having him get contracts with, say, Newark instead of Fair Haven makes him a better legislator for the people of his district.</p> <p>And I'm no lawyer, but isn't a position on the Little Silver Council kind of a contract?</p> <p>But again, if this bill passed, it would be progress, so bravo for O'Scanlon.</p> Kudos to O'Scanlon for proposing ethics legislation that would negatively impact his own income, instead of just pointing the finger at others.

As long as we're tilting at windmills, why is the bill limited to contracts within one's own district? To use O'Scanlon's case, I don't see how having him get contracts with, say, Newark instead of Fair Haven makes him a better legislator for the people of his district.

And I'm no lawyer, but isn't a position on the Little Silver Council kind of a contract?

But again, if this bill passed, it would be progress, so bravo for O'Scanlon.

]]> By: Dan http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html/comment-page-1#comment-32051 Dan Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:30:14 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html#comment-32051 <p>Kudos to O'Scanlon for proposing ethics legislation that would negatively impact his own income, instead of just pointing the finger at others.</p> <p>As long as we're tilting at windmills, why is the bill limited to contracts within one's own district? To use O'Scanlon's case, I don't see how having him get contracts with, say, Newark instead of Fair Haven makes him a better legislator for the people of his district.</p> <p>And I'm no lawyer, but isn't a position on the Little Silver Council kind of a contract?</p> <p>But again, if this bill passed, it would be progress, so bravo for O'Scanlon.</p> Kudos to O'Scanlon for proposing ethics legislation that would negatively impact his own income, instead of just pointing the finger at others.

As long as we're tilting at windmills, why is the bill limited to contracts within one's own district? To use O'Scanlon's case, I don't see how having him get contracts with, say, Newark instead of Fair Haven makes him a better legislator for the people of his district.

And I'm no lawyer, but isn't a position on the Little Silver Council kind of a contract?

But again, if this bill passed, it would be progress, so bravo for O'Scanlon.

]]> By: Upton O'Goode http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html/comment-page-1#comment-32050 Upton O'Goode Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:19:19 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html#comment-32050 <p>When Declan did it it wasn't illegal and if his legislation gets passed it will be. Ummmm.....There is a difference between being legal and being legitimate. Legislation like this is meant to be a minimum standard. Real decisions regarding ethics come from within. If someone has to consult statutes and ordinances to determine if they are doing something unethical they probably are. Wasn't it US Senator Barry Goldwater who said, "You can't legislate morality"?</p> When Declan did it it wasn't illegal and if his legislation gets passed it will be. Ummmm…..There is a difference between being legal and being legitimate. Legislation like this is meant to be a minimum standard. Real decisions regarding ethics come from within. If someone has to consult statutes and ordinances to determine if they are doing something unethical they probably are. Wasn't it US Senator Barry Goldwater who said, "You can't legislate morality"?

]]> By: PK http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html/comment-page-1#comment-32049 PK Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:58:29 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/03/oscanlon.html#comment-32049 <p>What a great idea that completely makes sense. unfortunately, it has just as much a chance of becoming laws as monkeys flying over broad street.</p> What a great idea that completely makes sense. unfortunately, it has just as much a chance of becoming laws as monkeys flying over broad street.

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