Comments on: VOTERS & CHIEFS SCORE TRIBORO COP SHOP http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html Serving greater Red Bank, NJ - a town square for an unsquare town Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:34:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: LOL http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30780 LOL Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:21:02 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30780 <p>Yeah, "Don't Worry" can't be a cop. . . everything he wrote is true! Might not be very elegant about it, but true none the less.</p> Yeah, "Don't Worry" can't be a cop. . . everything he wrote is true! Might not be very elegant about it, but true none the less.

]]> By: BFrank http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30779 BFrank Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:34:27 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30779 <p>I'm still laughing at the phrase "hole hardily" from the 9/11 guy back at the start of this thread. Great stuff!</p> I'm still laughing at the phrase "hole hardily" from the 9/11 guy back at the start of this thread. Great stuff!

]]> By: Rumson Resident http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30778 Rumson Resident Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:28:57 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30778 <p>note: the 'posted by' is under the actual narrative, not above it. my bad haters. I meant to say Dont Worry is definitely not a cop.</p> note: the 'posted by' is under the actual narrative, not above it. my bad haters. I meant to say Dont Worry is definitely not a cop.

]]> By: Rumson Resident http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30777 Rumson Resident Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:24:03 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30777 <p>Haters didn't write those comments, I did. If I was a cop I'd say I was. I have nothing to hide. I have several friends and family who are cops throughout NJ and the US so I have some knowledge of their work environment and what stuff they have to deal with. I'm in finance, hence the pencil pusher comment. But Haters is definitely not a cop. And I avoid Asbury like the plague cause I get scared easily.</p> Haters didn't write those comments, I did. If I was a cop I'd say I was. I have nothing to hide. I have several friends and family who are cops throughout NJ and the US so I have some knowledge of their work environment and what stuff they have to deal with. I'm in finance, hence the pencil pusher comment. But Haters is definitely not a cop. And I avoid Asbury like the plague cause I get scared easily.

]]> By: Non Hater http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30776 Non Hater Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:37:34 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30776 <p> Hey Haters, first off drop the s, hater is much more appropiate. Your scary. You need to do one or all of the following:<br /> A. get some anger management therapy<br /> B. up your dosage of lithium or valium<br /> C. cut down on your sugar intake<br /> If your a cop, you give me the creeps. Your ignorant comment about us hiding in the closet and sucking our thumbs, come on, was that necessary? Do us a favor. Drive down to Asbury saturday night, without your gun and start screaming at the top of your lungs "your all scumbags". We'll see who sucks their thumb. <br /> </p> Hey Haters, first off drop the s, hater is much more appropiate. Your scary. You need to do one or all of the following:
A. get some anger management therapy
B. up your dosage of lithium or valium
C. cut down on your sugar intake
If your a cop, you give me the creeps. Your ignorant comment about us hiding in the closet and sucking our thumbs, come on, was that necessary? Do us a favor. Drive down to Asbury saturday night, without your gun and start screaming at the top of your lungs "your all scumbags". We'll see who sucks their thumb.

]]> By: Don't Worry has got to be a politician http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30775 Don't Worry has got to be a politician Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:44:34 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30775 <p>Wonder if "don't worry" knows how many tax payer dollars were recently spent in one of our towns because town policies were passed that; "No weapons could be in any municipal vehicle" and "No persons not employed by the borough could be in a borough owned vehicle" Since this would make it kinda hard for a police officer to transport a prisoner, or even get in the car himself without being subject to discipline, a wording change relative to police was requested. The local government would NOT alter the language until the matter was heard at the state level. Finally the simple, common sense wording change initially requested was made after much mediation and legal cost. So much for politicians that are looking for more efficient ways to spend your tax dollar. </p> Wonder if "don't worry" knows how many tax payer dollars were recently spent in one of our towns because town policies were passed that; "No weapons could be in any municipal vehicle" and "No persons not employed by the borough could be in a borough owned vehicle" Since this would make it kinda hard for a police officer to transport a prisoner, or even get in the car himself without being subject to discipline, a wording change relative to police was requested. The local government would NOT alter the language until the matter was heard at the state level. Finally the simple, common sense wording change initially requested was made after much mediation and legal cost. So much for politicians that are looking for more efficient ways to spend your tax dollar.

]]> By: Don't Worry is not a cop http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30774 Don't Worry is not a cop Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:13:37 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30774 <p>You can tell by the previous post this chump is not a cop.</p> You can tell by the previous post this chump is not a cop.

]]> By: Don't worry http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30773 Don't worry Sun, 13 Jul 2008 10:45:59 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30773 <p>I have been a cop for a long time and I have learned one thing, when push comes to shove, the politicians fold like a cheap suit. Contracts always get settled in our favor, grievances always get settled in our favor, we always get what we want.</p> <p>As long as we keep coming out to meetings and attacking them and threatening them, they will NEVER have the nerve to do this. </p> <p>The best part is we will be stronger afterwards. Once we have beaten this back we will be in a much better position to get bigger raises and better benefits. i think this will be the best thing that ever happened to us!</p> <p>Just wase up on the rhetoric a bit. There has never been a politician in these towns with enough nerve to take on the cops. We know it, they know it.</p> I have been a cop for a long time and I have learned one thing, when push comes to shove, the politicians fold like a cheap suit. Contracts always get settled in our favor, grievances always get settled in our favor, we always get what we want.

As long as we keep coming out to meetings and attacking them and threatening them, they will NEVER have the nerve to do this.

The best part is we will be stronger afterwards. Once we have beaten this back we will be in a much better position to get bigger raises and better benefits. i think this will be the best thing that ever happened to us!

Just wase up on the rhetoric a bit. There has never been a politician in these towns with enough nerve to take on the cops. We know it, they know it.

]]> By: Haters http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30772 Haters Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:43:01 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30772 <p> After reading all of the comments it is easy to see that many of you don't know what you're talking about and many of you must be the idiots that we have cops to protect us from. I'm sure some of you applied for a police job and never got an interview so now your angry and bash cops. Do us all a favor and attend the next meetings before posting again. <br /> Our local cops don't retire after 20 yrs with 75%. They retire after 25 yrs with 65%. Not every cop is making $100,000 a year. Their salaries are posted on app.com. A first year patrolman only makes mid $30,000's and then it takes several years, anywhere from 5-7 years to depending on their contracts, to reach the $80,000 mark. That's not going to buy you a bungalow in these towns. Most can't even afford to live in the town they protect. Most of the cops I know are working two jobs just to make ends meet. They want to live and work here for the same reasons most of us want to live here. A solid education for our children and a safe area for them to live in. There work schedule is brutal. Not only are they working shiftwork but they don't get holidays off (unless their scheduled to have off that day). Christmas morning with the kids? Sorry kids, we can't open gifts until your father gets home at 4pm. Thanksgiving dinner? We're going to have a turkey breakfast because your dad has to go to work tonight. Sounds fun, NOT. Their working when most of America is sleeping and their sleeping whem most of America is working. I worked shiftwork for 5 years in my old job. It sucks the life out of you and tears apart your relationships with family and friends. My 9-5 Mon-Fri is cake compared to those years. Add another 20 years onto that. I like the comment by MineToo: "If the politicians have promised to not lay you off, what is the problem?" Yeah, cause politicians don't lie. Anyone remember "No New Taxes". Idiot. It's not a guarenteed job for life. Their life could end walking up to a car during a traffic stop for something as simple as failure to use a turn signal. Scumbags drive cars and carry weapons and hate cops. Do any of my fellow pencil pushers have to worry about getting shot walking to the next cubicle at work? Didn't think so. As slim as the chance might be, it still exists and is a reality in their line of work, every day. Do you think the only people driving in these three towns are the people who live in them? This "peninsula" is surrounded by towns that have VERY HIGH crime rates and scumbags living in them. Anyone ever hear of Asbury Park, Eatontown, Red Bank, Keansburg? And just because Rum/FH/LS are considered wealthy doesn't mean there is no crime and that they don't have their own scumbags living in them. Most of the police depts time is spent conducting traffic enforcement, quality of life issues (e.g. noise complaints), juvenile matters and larcenies. These things don't seem like a big deal. But don't think that there haven't been sexual assaults, physical assaults, assaults with weapons, deaths (natural and suicides), burglaries, child abuse, auto thefts and domestics in these "rich" towns. As the saying goes "Mo' Money, Mo' Problems". Burglaries are rampant in these towns. Do you think a burglar is going to break into a crack shack in Asbury to find some loot? No. He's heading to the town where there is a better chance of finding some valuables. He'll drive a quick 20 minutes up RT. 35 and make a right turn heading to your neighborhood. He might not even care that your home. He'll sneak through a side door or window while your eating Cheerios on the couch. Who are you going to call if this happens to you? Your friend Paul who makes lattes at Starbucks. No. Your going to dial 911, hide in the deepest corner of you closet, suck your thumb and pray to god that Mr. Policeman arrives at your doorstep within a minute to save your sorry ass. They deserve every hard earned penny they make and I'm glad to contribute.<br /> Bottom line is this. 1) The study makes no mention of projected savings to the tax payer so it is very unlikely that any significant savings are going to occur if there is ever a merger between the towns. Don't you think the study would have mentioned a figure if this was the case? 2) You pay more for you Comast Cable bill every year than what you pay in taxes for you police department. If you want to save money then cancel your cable service and find some rabbit ear antenna and watch channels 2-13. That is GUARANTEED to save you money. This Shared Services crap isn't guaranteeing the tax payer any savings. 3) These councils, especially Eckdahl, want to be able to say they were the "First" towns to successfully merge three departments. What if it isn't? Do they want to say they were the "First" towns to make a horrible decision in their attempt to merge? Better be prepared for that outcome. </p> After reading all of the comments it is easy to see that many of you don't know what you're talking about and many of you must be the idiots that we have cops to protect us from. I'm sure some of you applied for a police job and never got an interview so now your angry and bash cops. Do us all a favor and attend the next meetings before posting again.
Our local cops don't retire after 20 yrs with 75%. They retire after 25 yrs with 65%. Not every cop is making $100,000 a year. Their salaries are posted on app.com. A first year patrolman only makes mid $30,000's and then it takes several years, anywhere from 5-7 years to depending on their contracts, to reach the $80,000 mark. That's not going to buy you a bungalow in these towns. Most can't even afford to live in the town they protect. Most of the cops I know are working two jobs just to make ends meet. They want to live and work here for the same reasons most of us want to live here. A solid education for our children and a safe area for them to live in. There work schedule is brutal. Not only are they working shiftwork but they don't get holidays off (unless their scheduled to have off that day). Christmas morning with the kids? Sorry kids, we can't open gifts until your father gets home at 4pm. Thanksgiving dinner? We're going to have a turkey breakfast because your dad has to go to work tonight. Sounds fun, NOT. Their working when most of America is sleeping and their sleeping whem most of America is working. I worked shiftwork for 5 years in my old job. It sucks the life out of you and tears apart your relationships with family and friends. My 9-5 Mon-Fri is cake compared to those years. Add another 20 years onto that. I like the comment by MineToo: "If the politicians have promised to not lay you off, what is the problem?" Yeah, cause politicians don't lie. Anyone remember "No New Taxes". Idiot. It's not a guarenteed job for life. Their life could end walking up to a car during a traffic stop for something as simple as failure to use a turn signal. Scumbags drive cars and carry weapons and hate cops. Do any of my fellow pencil pushers have to worry about getting shot walking to the next cubicle at work? Didn't think so. As slim as the chance might be, it still exists and is a reality in their line of work, every day. Do you think the only people driving in these three towns are the people who live in them? This "peninsula" is surrounded by towns that have VERY HIGH crime rates and scumbags living in them. Anyone ever hear of Asbury Park, Eatontown, Red Bank, Keansburg? And just because Rum/FH/LS are considered wealthy doesn't mean there is no crime and that they don't have their own scumbags living in them. Most of the police depts time is spent conducting traffic enforcement, quality of life issues (e.g. noise complaints), juvenile matters and larcenies. These things don't seem like a big deal. But don't think that there haven't been sexual assaults, physical assaults, assaults with weapons, deaths (natural and suicides), burglaries, child abuse, auto thefts and domestics in these "rich" towns. As the saying goes "Mo' Money, Mo' Problems". Burglaries are rampant in these towns. Do you think a burglar is going to break into a crack shack in Asbury to find some loot? No. He's heading to the town where there is a better chance of finding some valuables. He'll drive a quick 20 minutes up RT. 35 and make a right turn heading to your neighborhood. He might not even care that your home. He'll sneak through a side door or window while your eating Cheerios on the couch. Who are you going to call if this happens to you? Your friend Paul who makes lattes at Starbucks. No. Your going to dial 911, hide in the deepest corner of you closet, suck your thumb and pray to god that Mr. Policeman arrives at your doorstep within a minute to save your sorry ass. They deserve every hard earned penny they make and I'm glad to contribute.
Bottom line is this. 1) The study makes no mention of projected savings to the tax payer so it is very unlikely that any significant savings are going to occur if there is ever a merger between the towns. Don't you think the study would have mentioned a figure if this was the case? 2) You pay more for you Comast Cable bill every year than what you pay in taxes for you police department. If you want to save money then cancel your cable service and find some rabbit ear antenna and watch channels 2-13. That is GUARANTEED to save you money. This Shared Services crap isn't guaranteeing the tax payer any savings. 3) These councils, especially Eckdahl, want to be able to say they were the "First" towns to successfully merge three departments. What if it isn't? Do they want to say they were the "First" towns to make a horrible decision in their attempt to merge? Better be prepared for that outcome.

]]> By: Rumson Resident http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html/comment-page-1#comment-30771 Rumson Resident Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:54:55 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/07/triboro-cop-con.html#comment-30771 <p>I personally like having our own police force. It a nice hometown feel when you know all the officers in town. And I can't be the only one that appreciates a stern warning instead of a speeding ticket every time you get careless. I have a small cost saving measure we could implement in Rumson. Has anyone checked on the sewer department lately. Now if any department calls for consolidation, its that one. Holy cow, they spend more time patrolling the high school parking lots, ball fields, and local hangouts girl watching than anything.</p> I personally like having our own police force. It a nice hometown feel when you know all the officers in town. And I can't be the only one that appreciates a stern warning instead of a speeding ticket every time you get careless. I have a small cost saving measure we could implement in Rumson. Has anyone checked on the sewer department lately. Now if any department calls for consolidation, its that one. Holy cow, they spend more time patrolling the high school parking lots, ball fields, and local hangouts girl watching than anything.

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