Comments on: RED BANK DRUG BUST NETS HEROIN, COKE http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html Serving greater Red Bank, NJ - a town square for an unsquare town Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:18:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Deport Em http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30152 Deport Em Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:42:11 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30152 <p>Has anyone checked into the landlord of this house and why illegal aliens keep getting caught at that residence? Is the owner complicit and knowlingly renting to illegal gang bangers? Is the owner a gang banger too? </p> Has anyone checked into the landlord of this house and why illegal aliens keep getting caught at that residence? Is the owner complicit and knowlingly renting to illegal gang bangers? Is the owner a gang banger too?

]]> By: BFrank http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30151 BFrank Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:54:26 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30151 <p>Dan,<br /> the state AG last year ordered all police depts to check the immigration status of anyone arrested for a felony. So under that policy, these guys would be checked and ICE would be notified if they're illegal. And even if they're legal and they're non citizens, they'll be deportable if they're convicted.</p> Dan,
the state AG last year ordered all police depts to check the immigration status of anyone arrested for a felony. So under that policy, these guys would be checked and ICE would be notified if they're illegal. And even if they're legal and they're non citizens, they'll be deportable if they're convicted.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30150 Anonymous Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:39:56 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30150 <p>Welcome. We are building an inclusive community...</p> Welcome. We are building an inclusive community…

]]> By: Dan http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30149 Dan Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:35:36 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30149 <p>The census doesn't make any determinations about legality, so it does count "unauthorized migrants." (Pretty soon the immigration debate is going to get completely bogged down because everyone will be using a different term for illegal aliens.)</p> <p>From their site (<a href="https://ask.census.gov/cgi-bin/askcensus.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1115):" rel="nofollow">https://ask.census.gov/cgi-bin/askcensus.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1115):</a> "The Census Bureau does not ask about legal (migrant) status of respondents in any of its survey and census programs.... Given the success of Census 2000 in counting nearly every person residing in the United States, we expect that unauthorized migrants were included among people who indicated that the United States was their usual place of residence on the survey date."</p> The census doesn't make any determinations about legality, so it does count "unauthorized migrants." (Pretty soon the immigration debate is going to get completely bogged down because everyone will be using a different term for illegal aliens.)

From their site (https://ask.census.gov/cgi-bin/askcensus.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1115): "The Census Bureau does not ask about legal (migrant) status of respondents in any of its survey and census programs…. Given the success of Census 2000 in counting nearly every person residing in the United States, we expect that unauthorized migrants were included among people who indicated that the United States was their usual place of residence on the survey date."

]]> By: alexander a http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30148 alexander a Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:32:47 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30148 <p>Thanks Mike. For the record I do avoid (as much as I can) places that employ illegals. I see the mess at the wawa every morning and am aware of the situation. As a result of the wawa mob I now patronize the 7/11 on w-front. Sorry, I don't have a maid but if I did she would have a work visa or be a legal immigrant. The people I employ to maintain my parents home consist of a retired holmdel cop and his helpers none of which are illegal. Please spare me the preaching. If I had children they most certainly would not be watched by illegals, that is just plain stupid. There is enough inherent risk in having your kids watched by legals as it is, why raise the risk further. The utility bill residency crud is ambiguious at best. Five families in one rented single family home can split up utility bills to establish residency but that doesn't make them legal. Would the federal census agency consider them legal residents becauase they can produce a comcast bill? I think not.</p> Thanks Mike. For the record I do avoid (as much as I can) places that employ illegals. I see the mess at the wawa every morning and am aware of the situation. As a result of the wawa mob I now patronize the 7/11 on w-front. Sorry, I don't have a maid but if I did she would have a work visa or be a legal immigrant. The people I employ to maintain my parents home consist of a retired holmdel cop and his helpers none of which are illegal. Please spare me the preaching. If I had children they most certainly would not be watched by illegals, that is just plain stupid. There is enough inherent risk in having your kids watched by legals as it is, why raise the risk further. The utility bill residency crud is ambiguious at best. Five families in one rented single family home can split up utility bills to establish residency but that doesn't make them legal. Would the federal census agency consider them legal residents becauase they can produce a comcast bill? I think not.

]]> By: redbankrob http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30147 redbankrob Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:28:20 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30147 <p>I think it's pretty remarkable police work and we should congratulate those officers & detectives involved - it's my understanding is that "sur 13" is a part of the Mexican mafia and yes odds are that these individuals are in this county illegally - But so are the the hundreds of individuals who gather every morning at wa-wa parking lot and St. Anthony's church parking lot - as are many of the workers at the local restaurants you eat at - the people who cut down your trees or trim your lawns - the day laborers who help build the homes you live in - and those maids that are hired to clean your homes and the others who are hired to watch your children - If you are going to make this into an undocumented alien issue - The PROBLEM has always been with the businesses that recruit and hire illegal's and those you those businesses - The best way to fight illegal immigration is to boycott those businesses that use them as workers</p> I think it's pretty remarkable police work and we should congratulate those officers & detectives involved - it's my understanding is that "sur 13" is a part of the Mexican mafia and yes odds are that these individuals are in this county illegally - But so are the the hundreds of individuals who gather every morning at wa-wa parking lot and St. Anthony's church parking lot - as are many of the workers at the local restaurants you eat at - the people who cut down your trees or trim your lawns - the day laborers who help build the homes you live in - and those maids that are hired to clean your homes and the others who are hired to watch your children - If you are going to make this into an undocumented alien issue - The PROBLEM has always been with the businesses that recruit and hire illegal's and those you those businesses - The best way to fight illegal immigration is to boycott those businesses that use them as workers

]]> By: Mike http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30146 Mike Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:32:31 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30146 <p>Don't be a smart ass Dan. Alexander wants to know if the above mentioned pill pushers are legal residents of the United States or if they are fence-hoppers. Give him a break. If they are residents of Red Bank yet in this country illegally, I would think that "illegal resident" would be a fair classification. But go ahead and break out your Immigration Law handbook and engage him in a game of semantics if makes you feel swell. </p> <p>I hold that immigration status should be investigated as I am not sure how a judge can make a proper determination on bail (likelihood to flee) without knowing this important part of the puzzle. </p> Don't be a smart ass Dan. Alexander wants to know if the above mentioned pill pushers are legal residents of the United States or if they are fence-hoppers. Give him a break. If they are residents of Red Bank yet in this country illegally, I would think that "illegal resident" would be a fair classification. But go ahead and break out your Immigration Law handbook and engage him in a game of semantics if makes you feel swell.

I hold that immigration status should be investigated as I am not sure how a judge can make a proper determination on bail (likelihood to flee) without knowing this important part of the puzzle.

]]> By: Dan http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30145 Dan Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:18:55 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30145 <p>I don't think there is such a thing as an "illegal resident." If you live somewhere, you are a resident. Often a bill showing the address is used to establish residency. I assume you're asking about their immigration status, but that's not the same as residency.</p> <p>The sheriff recently announced plans to investigate the immigration status of jailed individuals (<a href="http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008808170439)," rel="nofollow">http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008808170439),</a> but I doubt the program will get off the ground fast enough for these individuals to be affected. Otherwise, I don't think their immigration status will be investigated.</p> I don't think there is such a thing as an "illegal resident." If you live somewhere, you are a resident. Often a bill showing the address is used to establish residency. I assume you're asking about their immigration status, but that's not the same as residency.

The sheriff recently announced plans to investigate the immigration status of jailed individuals (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008808170439), but I doubt the program will get off the ground fast enough for these individuals to be affected. Otherwise, I don't think their immigration status will be investigated.

]]> By: alexander a http://www.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html/comment-page-1#comment-30144 alexander a Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:01:30 +0000 http://ads.redbankgreen.com/2008/08/red-bank-drug-b.html#comment-30144 <p>Way to go guys to all participating investigators, officers and patrolmen CONGRATULATIONS!! A quick question though, does being a red bank resident mean that you are a legal resident or an illegal resident? Just curious. Would be nice to know for sure one way or the other.</p> Way to go guys to all participating investigators, officers and patrolmen CONGRATULATIONS!! A quick question though, does being a red bank resident mean that you are a legal resident or an illegal resident? Just curious. Would be nice to know for sure one way or the other.

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